tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274202625019620620.post4231128969606057162..comments2024-03-24T09:28:57.921+00:00Comments on 7and7is: The special place in hell and how to save the European dreamPhil Holdenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16426180519131561985noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274202625019620620.post-78176504954108211622019-02-10T21:02:19.972+00:002019-02-10T21:02:19.972+00:00You are clearly a fan of Tusk, DM. While not findi...You are clearly a fan of Tusk, DM. While not finding him totally beyond the pale, like Juncker and Selmayr, I am not. For me, his comments were malicious and mischievous, designed to interfere with the Brexit process rather than facilitating it to a mutually beneficial conclusion. <br />The Remain campaign had its chance to make its case and spectacularly failed. The "lies" of the Leave campaign were pointed out at the time but the electorate nevetheless believed those statements. This was possibly because the Remain case was tarnished by years of euroscepticm, drip fed from many sources, as claimed by the Craig Oliver character in the tv Brexit drama. But also it was because the Remain case was lacklustre and offered no great vision or hope. It couldn't really. It could only offer more of the same or the greater union vision that has never been bought into by a majority of Brits. So it ran the ultimate negative campaign. If they had done it differently and run an honest campaign I think Leave would have won much more convincingly.<br />So save the special place in hell for those who have, for decades, pushed the euro "project" without ever trying to get genuine democratic support for it, because they knew they wouldn't succeedPhil Holdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16426180519131561985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274202625019620620.post-89217045866964178932019-02-08T19:11:27.053+00:002019-02-08T19:11:27.053+00:00Tusk* hit the nail squarely on the lead Brexiteer&...Tusk* hit the nail squarely on the lead Brexiteer's heads with his words and they should have been said years ago by UK progressive politicians as the lies were being trotted out about the EU week after week by the rich and powerful in our media. That progressives sat back and let it happen is why we are where we are on the 'road to hell' as Chris Rea once sung.<br /> <br />'This ain't no upwardly mobile freeway<br />Oh no, this is the road<br />This is the road<br />This is the road to hell'<br /><br />* Tusk has described the city of his [Polish & communist] youth as "a typical frontier town" with "many borders ... between ethnicities". This, together with his Kashubian ethnic ancestry and multilingual family, meant that he grew up with an awareness that "nothing is simple in life or in history", which informed his adult political view that it is "best to be immune to every kind of orthodoxy, of ideology and most importantly, nationalism". He has described his young life under communism as "so hopeless" due to the boredom and monotony, with "no hope for anything to change".Democracy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125575273547374747noreply@blogger.com